Cleo was on a radio show talking about ants and her book on conflicts in insect societies (in French), 23.-27.05.2022.
There are 5 episodes of around 10-15 min:
Monday : https://www.rts.ch/audio-podcast/2022/audio/les-fourmis-1-5-25825532.html
Tuesday : https://www.rts.ch/audio-podcast/2022/audio/les-fourmis-2-5-25825811.html
Wednesday : https://www.rts.ch/audio-podcast/2022/audio/les-fourmis-3-5-25826131.html
Thursday : https://www.rts.ch/audio-podcast/2022/audio/les-fourmis-4-5-25826382.html
Friday : https://www.rts.ch/audio-podcast/2022/audio/les-fourmis-5-5-25826672.html